{"id":41779,"date":"2023-03-14T09:12:52","date_gmt":"2023-03-14T09:12:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dev2.atlatszo.exot.hu\/?p=41779"},"modified":"2024-04-08T13:44:05","modified_gmt":"2024-04-08T13:44:05","slug":"vechea-prefectura-targu-mures-abuz-proprietatea-composesoratului-ferenc-peter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/ro\/romana\/vechea-prefectura-targu-mures-abuz-proprietatea-composesoratului-ferenc-peter\/","title":{"rendered":"Vechea Prefectur\u0103 din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219 a fost trecut\u0103 neregulamentar \u00een proprietatea composesoratului condus de Ferenc P\u00e9ter"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>P\u00e9ter ar fi putut s\u0103 ob\u021bin\u0103 cl\u0103direa pentru Consiliul Jude\u021bean, sau s\u0103 o lase \u00een proprietatea ora\u0219ului. Dar a ales proprietatea privat\u0103.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p><em>Actualizare, 14.03.2023, ora 20:20:<\/em> Pagina de Facebook a prim\u0103riei T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219 a venit ast\u0103zi <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/tgmures.vasarhely\/posts\/pfbid0H5LMXTH78tEJcrcYfBakqf6HAhkHvwo9LTTq1yZ2gBZoE8eJDR8ML99nnFVDobMJl?__cft__[0]=AZXNO4Aw2qLFncglbajzsDIXyylrLSkHznjrCVL_Myxl6LOsngEDDEemAaJ3boyn1lg8hKcTkIPVCi6dJ4Y8UeEHC3zrZo8HejsrAm10cPkYNsBdTivNXuWutiUD0T183pqz1N1QUTXLaqCjWrhx91IV&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">cu \u201epreciz\u0103ri\u201d<\/a> cu privire la situa\u021bia imobilului situat pe strada Bolyai nr. 5. Preciz\u0103rile \u00eens\u0103 ridic\u0103 mai multe \u00eentreb\u0103ri. Pagina de Facebook, \u00een mod constant bilingv\u0103, comunic\u0103 acum doar \u00een rom\u00e2n\u0103, c\u0103 oficiul de cadastru al jude\u021bului Mure\u0219 a admis cererea de reexaminare a prim\u0103riei de la 1 martie \u0219i practic a anulat noua carte funciar\u0103 a imobilului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu \u0219tim \u00eens\u0103, ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 \u201eastfel revenind la situa\u021bia anterioar\u0103 a CF 946 T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219\u201d. Nu se precizeaz\u0103, cine e proprietarul. (Cartea funciar\u0103 veche poate fi vizualizat\u0103 mai jos \u00een articol.) De asemenea, nu este clar cum oficiul de cadastru poate s\u0103 anuleze \u00een mod legal \u00eenregistrarea din octombrie 2022, fie ea legal\u0103 sau nelegal\u0103, prin care a atribuit dreptul de proprietate al imobilului Composesoratului Mure\u0219ul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu \u0219tim nici m\u0103car dac\u0103 prim\u0103ria a dat \u00een judecat\u0103 oficiul de cadastru, cum a promis primarul. Tot ce se dezv\u0103luie este c\u0103 prim\u0103ria prin primarul Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s continu\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 toate demersurile pentru ca Vechea Prefectur\u0103 s\u0103 devin\u0103 proprietatea ora\u0219ului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00centrebarea principal\u0103 acum: care ac\u021biune a oficiului de cadastru este ilegal\u0103? Cea cu care a \u00eenregistrat dreptul de proprietate al composesoratului condus de Ferenc P\u00e9ter? Sau cea cu care a anulat acum dreptul de proprietate a composesoratului? \u00centreb\u0103rile noastre le-am trimis lui Ferenc P\u00e9ter \u0219i Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s, c\u00e2t \u0219i directorului Lucian Manisor, \u0219eful oficiului de cadastru Mure\u0219. \u00cenc\u0103 a\u0219tept\u0103m s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 la \u00eentreb\u0103rile originale enumerate la sf\u00e2r\u0219itul articolului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Articolul original:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Un conflict neobi\u0219nuit se preg\u0103te\u0219te \u00eentre doi binecunoscu\u021bi politicieni maghiari: instan\u021ba va decide care dintre ei poate administra o cl\u0103dire istoric\u0103 din centrul municipiului T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219 \u00een valoare de cel pu\u021bin jum\u0103tate de milion de euro.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unul dintre eieste <strong>Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s<\/strong>, primarul din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219, ales \u00een septembrie 2020, dup\u0103 20 de ani de domnie a primarului Dorin Florea. Cel\u0103lalt este <strong>Ferenc P\u00e9ter<\/strong>, ales deja pentru a doua oar\u0103 \u00een fruntea Consiliului Jude\u021bean Mure\u0219 \u0219i care a sus\u021binut explicit alegerea lui Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s ca primar.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cl\u0103direa istoric\u0103 din perioada baroc\u0103 este Vechea Prefectur\u0103 sau Casa Scaunului de pe strada Bolyai nr. 5. Valoarea sa real\u0103 este de c\u00e2teva ori mai mare dec\u00e2t cea oficial\u0103 de jum\u0103tate de milion de euro, ne-au confirmat surse locale \u0219i profesionale. De cincizeci de ani, cl\u0103direa este folosit\u0103 de arti\u0219ti, cuprinz\u00e2nd ateliere \u0219i spa\u021bii de expozi\u021bie. Cel mai cunoscut dintre aceste ateliere este Studio B5 al lui <strong>J\u00f3zsef Bartha. <\/strong>Bartha ne-a povestit c\u0103 el a intrat \u00een cl\u0103dire \u00een timpul revolu\u021biei \u0219i \u0219i-a rezervat un spa\u021biu acolo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"Bolyai utca 5 sz\u00e1m\" class=\"wp-image-41651\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-295x222.jpg 295w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-750x563.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo-1140x855.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_utcafront_Ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Prefectura Veche de pe strada Bolyai. Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Informa\u021biile noastre actuale arat\u0103 c\u0103 cl\u0103direa este proprietate de stat \u00eenc\u0103 din 1876. \u00cenainte de aceast\u0103 dat\u0103&nbsp; a fost sediul Scaunului Mure\u0219, predecesoruli legal al jude\u021bului Mure\u0219-Turda, \u0219i probabil a servit \u0219i ca sediu al Composesoratului Scaunul Mure\u0219. Acest vechi composesorat cel mai probabil a \u0219i finan\u021bat reconstruc\u021bia \u0219i extinderea cl\u0103dirii \u00een anii 1744-45 \u0219i 1838.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tocmai din aceste cauze istorice&nbsp; este de interes \u0219i experien\u021ba profesional\u0103 a celor doi politicieni: Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s este arheolog, expert \u00een conservarea patrimoniului, iar p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2020 a fost director al Muzeului Jude\u021bean Mure\u0219, iar Ferenc P\u00e9ter a fost primar al ora\u0219ului Sovata \u00eentre 2000 \u0219i 2016, \u0219i este pre\u0219edintele <strong>Composesoratului<\/strong> <strong>Mure\u0219ul<\/strong>, \u00eenregistrat\u0103 \u00een mai 2000.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen cazul \u00een care cei doi politicieni nu vor s\u0103 ajung\u0103 la \u00eenchisoare sau m\u0103car \u00eentr-un proces penal pentru permiterea sau facilitarea transfer\u0103rii \u00een proprietate privat\u0103 a unei <a href=\"https:\/\/patrimoniu.gov.ro\/images\/lmi-2015\/LMI-MS.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">cl\u0103diri de patrimoniu<\/a> de proprietate public\u0103, vor trebui s\u0103 clarifice \u00een contencios administrativ al cui este cl\u0103direa: al ora\u0219ului sau al composesoratului. Fiindc\u0103 din octombrie anul trecut, cl\u0103direa este \u00eenscris\u0103 \u00een cartea funciar\u0103 pe numele Composesoratului Mure\u0219ul cu sediul \u00een Sovata.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Din c\u00e2te \u0219tim \u00een momentul de fa\u021b\u0103, aceast\u0103 procedur\u0103 s-a realizat&nbsp; \u00een mod abuziv.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Composesoratul re\u00eenfiin\u021bat \u00een urm\u0103 cu mai bine de dou\u0103zeci de ani, este, din punct de vedere juridic, o asocia\u021bie, ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 activele sale sunt proprietate privat\u0103. Cu toate acestea, nici composesoratul nu poate schimba func\u021bia cultural\u0103 a cl\u0103dirii, func\u021bie pe care o are de cel pu\u021bin 25 de ani, ne-a declarat J\u00f3zsef Bartha, referindu-se la informa\u021biile oferite de avocatul contactat de c\u0103tre arti\u0219ti.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Arti\u0219tii care \u00ee\u0219i desf\u0103\u0219oar\u0103 activitatea \u00een Vechea Prefectur\u0103 sunt interesa\u021bi, \u00een primul r\u00e2nd, s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 acolo sau \u00eentr-o loca\u021bie la fel de central\u0103, cu o chirie la fel de avantajoas\u0103 ca cea pe care o pl\u0103tesc ora\u0219ului de cel pu\u021bin 25 de ani. Ei pl\u0103tesc \u0219i facturile de utilit\u0103\u021bi, motiv pentru care acum nu mai stau aproape niciodat\u0103 acolo: nu pot s\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103lzeasc\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103perile cu pere\u021bii de jum\u0103tate de metru grosime care uneori se ud\u0103 din cauza amenaj\u0103rii proaste a str\u0103zii, a declarat J\u00f3zsef Bartha, \u0219eful B5 Studio. De ani de zile, el cere municipalit\u0103\u021bii s\u0103 transfere contractul de \u00eenchiriere a spa\u021biului de pe numele s\u0103u pe cel al funda\u021biei sale, pentru a putea folosi banii din proiecte \u0219i granturi pentru a acoperi cheltuielile de utilit\u0103\u021bi \u0219i de \u00eentre\u021binere.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41645\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-295x222.jpg 295w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-750x563.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503-1140x855.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/PXL_20230222_151905503.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Artistul Bartha J\u00f3zsef \u00een studioul lui. Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Singura modificare cu care a venit ora\u0219ul este entitatea contractant\u0103. Timp de zeci de ani, chiria a fost pl\u0103tit\u0103 societ\u0103\u021bii de administrare a propriet\u0103\u021bilor ora\u0219ului, Locativ SA; din 2021, arti\u0219tii au pl\u0103tit c\u0103tre SPUM, un serviciu public al prim\u0103riei. \u00cen acest an, ora\u0219ul a venit cu o firm\u0103 nou\u0103. De la jum\u0103tatea lunii ianuarie, cl\u0103direa istoric\u0103, care de-altfel necesit\u0103 renovare, este administrat\u0103 de Centrul de Cultur\u0103 \u0219i Art\u0103 T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219. \u00cen momentul \u00een care Centrul a preluat administrarea cl\u0103dirii, a \u0219i izbucnit scandalul transfer\u0103rii dreptului de proprietate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Conflictul de interes dintre cei doi politicieni este ceva obi\u0219nuit, \u00een sensul c\u0103 niciunul dintre ei nu vrea s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103 despre acesta. Cazul a fost adus \u00een aten\u021bia noastr\u0103 de mai multe persoane din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219. Ne-au pus la dispozi\u021bie documente care nu au fost \u00eenc\u0103 publicate \u00een pres\u0103, de\u0219i cazul a fost deja semnalat \u00een lunile ianuarie \u0219i februarie \u00een presa local\u0103. De aici \u0219tim care este pozi\u021bia celor doi politicieni.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">R\u0103t\u0103ci\u021bi printre cuvinte<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 <em>Nemes Marossz\u00e9k birtokos k\u00f6z\u00f6ns\u00e9ge<\/em>? \u2013 ne-am \u00eentrebat la mijlocul lunii februarie, c\u00e2nd o surs\u0103 care a solicitat anonimatul ne-a trimis urm\u0103torul fragment de registru funciar. Literalmente ast\u0103zi ar \u00eensemna: <em>Publicul posesor al Nobilului Scaun al Mure\u0219ului<\/em>, iar un sens mai aproape de original ar fi <em>Comunitatea proprietarilor de teren al nobilului Scaun al Mure\u0219ului<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"596\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-1024x596.jpg\" alt=\"Nemes Marossz\u00e9k birtokos k\u00f6z\u00f6ns\u00e9ge\" class=\"wp-image-41654\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-1024x596.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-300x175.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-768x447.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-750x436.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje-1140x663.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-A-oldal-teteje.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Din num\u0103rul topo, suprafa\u021ba \u0219i descrierea (cas\u0103 de piatr\u0103 cu 28 de \u00eenc\u0103peri), am v\u0103zut c\u0103 aceasta este \u00eentr-adev\u0103r prima pagin\u0103 din vechiul registru cadastral al cl\u0103dirii contestate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00centre timp, citisem deja \u00een presa local\u0103 despre ciudatul caz imobiliar: Composesoratul Mure\u0219ul din Sovata a trecut pe numele s\u0103u Vechea Prefectur\u0103 din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219. Presa rom\u00e2neasc\u0103 a catalogat-o <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zi-de-zi.ro\/2023\/01\/20\/afacere-imobiliara-suspecta-in-vizorul-pol-targu-mures\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">drept o afacere suspect\u0103<\/a> \u0219i a publicat <a href=\"https:\/\/oameniliberi.com\/scrisoare-deschisa\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">scrisoarea deschis\u0103<\/a> cu \u00eentreb\u0103rile consilierilor locali ai Partidului Oamenilor Liberi (POL) din Mure\u0219.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/szekelyhon.ro\/aktualis\/marosszek\/nem-a-varose-a-regi-varmegyehaza\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sz\u00e9kelyhon<\/a> a \u00eencercat s\u0103 g\u0103seasc\u0103 o explica\u021bie, discut\u00e2nd cu topograful \u0219i expertul cadastral Botond R\u00e1kossy pentru a afla cum a putut \u00eenregistra composesoratul pe numele s\u0103u o proprietatea public\u0103, \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care cl\u0103direa este administrat\u0103 de municipalitate cel pu\u021bin din 1999, prim\u0103ria o \u00eenchiriaz\u0103 arti\u0219tilor, iar hot\u0103r\u00e2rea guvernului N\u0103stase din 2002 a inclus-o \u00een inventarul ora\u0219ului. R\u00e1kossy, autor al unei c\u0103r\u021bi <a href=\"https:\/\/www.citesti.ro\/book\/52a62\/101-%C3%AEncheieri-carte-funciar%C4%83-care-ajut%C4%83-s%C4%83-%C3%AEn%C5%A3elegi-sistemul-r%C3%A1kossy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">despre cele mai absurde 101 \u00eencheieri de carte funciar\u0103<\/a>, \u0219i la c\u00e2teva zile distant\u0103 \u0219i Ferenc P\u00e9ter, au dat \u00een mare aceea\u0219i explica\u021bie: ora\u0219ul pur \u0219i simplu a omis s\u0103&nbsp; \u00eenscrie cl\u0103direa \u00een cadastru din 2002 \u00eencoace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"177\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-1024x177.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41657\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-1024x177.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-300x52.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-768x133.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-750x130.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo-1140x198.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_belsoudvar_panorama_Ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Panorama cur\u021bii interioare. Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Dar, \u00een timp ce Ferenc P\u00e9ter sus\u021bine c\u0103 transferul cl\u0103dirii \u00een proprietatea actualului composesorat s-a putut realiza doar pentru c\u0103 \u00een cartea funciar\u0103 composesoratul figureaz\u0103 ca unic proprietar \u00eenc\u0103 din 1915, nefiind men\u021bionat\u0103 nici m\u0103car na\u021bionalizarea, R\u00e1kossy spune c\u0103&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">composesoratul ar fi trebuit s\u0103 ini\u021bieze o procedur\u0103 de restituire.&nbsp;<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Cu alte cuvinte, composesoratul ar fi trebuit s\u0103 cear\u0103 cl\u0103direa de la prim\u0103rie, ar\u0103t\u00e2nd <strong>prin ce contract sau lege <\/strong>a intrat \u00een posesia vechiului composesorat, care a fost apoi lichidat prin na\u021bionalizare dup\u0103 1946. \u00cen cazul \u00een care cererea este considerat\u0103 valid\u0103, prim\u0103ria emite o decizie de restituire sau un titlu de proprietate, cu care composesoratul actual se prezint\u0103 la oficiul de cadastru pentru a-\u0219i \u00eenregistra proprietatea asupra cl\u0103dirii. \u00cen cazul \u00een care prim\u0103ria refuz\u0103 restituirea, composesoratul poate merge \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 \u0219i revendica proprietatea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Angaja\u021bii oficiului de cadastru nu pot stabili singuri succesiunea juridic\u0103 dintre vechiul \u0219i noul composesorat \u0219i nu pot transfera dreptul de proprietate asupra cl\u0103dirii f\u0103r\u0103 un titlu de proprietate sau o decizie de restituire, ne-a confirmat Botond R\u00e1kossy. \u00cen teorie, un astfel de transfer cvasi-automat e posibil dac\u0103 succesiunea este declarat\u0103 printr-o hot\u0103r\u00e2re judec\u0103toreasc\u0103, ne-a spus un jurist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\u00c9p\u00fcletek fel\u00fclr\u0151l Marosv\u00e1s\u00e1rhely\" class=\"wp-image-41661\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-295x222.jpg 295w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-750x563.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo-1140x855.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_Bolyai_RefKollegium_ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ferenc P\u00e9ter <a href=\"https:\/\/nepujsag.ro\/articles\/a-varos-sohasem-volt-tulajdonos\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sus\u021bine<\/a> c\u0103 composesoratul are o astfel de hot\u0103r\u00e2re judec\u0103toreasc\u0103 pe baza c\u0103reia biroul de cadastru a corectat pur \u0219i simplu numele anterior, Composesoratul Scaunul Mure\u0219, cu noul nume, Composesoratul Mure\u0219ul. (Dup\u0103 cum s-a dovedit ulterior, acest lucru nu este adev\u0103rat: oficiul de cadastru a transcris numele pe baza unei declara\u021bii a \u00eensu\u0219i pre\u0219edintelui P\u00e9ter.) \u00cen plus, acesta a lini\u0219tit opinia public\u0103 , asigur\u00e2ndu-l c\u0103 cl\u0103direa va continua s\u0103 serveasc\u0103 comunitatea local\u0103, \u00een armonie cu obiectivele municipiului T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aceast\u0103 armonie a fost \u00eent\u0103rit\u0103 de primarul Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s, care a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sooszoltantgm\/posts\/pfbid0sW8CKi7uy9qaD1YMiispmmLFNhnQAVjR8bconzEuRtp7TpKEoxuacNok3eWcRZqYl\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sus\u021binut<\/a> c\u0103 imobilul nu a fost niciodat\u0103 proprietatea ora\u0219ului. A \u0219i stricat \u00eens\u0103 pu\u021bin armonia, spun\u00e2nd c\u0103 va da \u00een judecat\u0103 oficiul de cadastru pentru a anula \u00eenscrierea composesoratului ca proprietar \u0219i ca instan\u021ba s\u0103 atribuie cl\u0103direa ora\u0219ului. \u00centruc\u00e2t primarul So\u00f3s nu a r\u0103spuns la solicit\u0103rile noastre repetate, am aflat de la juri\u0219tii no\u0219tri c\u0103, \u00een virtutea utiliz\u0103rii cl\u0103diri timp de zeci de ani, So\u00f3s trebuie&nbsp; s\u0103 ini\u021bieze un proces din oficiu pentru a ob\u021bine proprietatea asupra cl\u0103dirii.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">De fapt, ar fi trebuit s\u0103 intenteze acest proces acum un an,<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>dup\u0103 cum am aflat din documentul prim\u0103riei pe care l-am primit de la consilierul POL Zolt P\u00e1pai. Este vorba de un <em>Memoriu tehnic<\/em>, o descriere a cl\u0103dirii emis de un inginer topograf la 1 februarie 2022, care a f\u0103cut m\u0103sur\u0103torile pentru ca prim\u0103ria s\u0103-\u0219i poat\u0103 \u00eenscrie proprietatea \u00een cartea funciar\u0103. Vezi capitolul <em>Scopul lucr\u0103rii<\/em>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"662\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-1024x662.jpg\" alt=\"Memoriu tehnic\" class=\"wp-image-41664\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-1024x662.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-768x497.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-750x485.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic-1140x737.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"821\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-1024x821.jpg\" alt=\"Memoriu tehnic r\u00e9gi megyeh\u00e1za le\u00edr\u00e1sa\" class=\"wp-image-41667\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-1024x821.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-768x616.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-750x601.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1-1140x914.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Memoriu-tehnic1.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen descrierea juridic\u0103 din 2022 se men\u021biona deja c\u0103 proprietarul era Composesoratul Scaunul Mure\u0219.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De\u0219i primarul So\u00f3s \u0219tia m\u0103car din luna februarie a anului trecut c\u0103 \u00een cartea funciar\u0103 nu figureaz\u0103 ora\u0219ul ca proprietar , abia dup\u0103 scandalul din acest an a anun\u021bat c\u0103 va da \u00een judecat\u0103 oficiul de cadastru.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201eMi s-a adus la cuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103 c\u0103 municipalitatea nu poate ac\u021biona, nu poate investi \u00een cl\u0103dire pentru c\u0103 nu-i apar\u021bine. Atunci am clarificat situa\u021bia propriet\u0103\u021bii cu avoca\u021bii\u201d, a declarat Ferenc P\u00e9ter pentru <a href=\"https:\/\/nepujsag.ro\/articles\/a-varos-sohasem-volt-tulajdonos\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">N\u00e9p\u00fajs\u00e1g<\/a>. De aici se pare de fapt c\u0103 \u0219i el ar fi aflat tot prin februarie 2022 c\u0103 municipalitatea nu de\u021bine cl\u0103direa, iar atunci a ac\u021bionat el cu composesoratul pe care-l conduce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cu toate acestea, composesoratul a \u00eenceput demersul pentru \u00eenscrierea cl\u0103dirii cu cel pu\u021bin doi ani \u00een urm\u0103, conform extrasului de carte funciar\u0103 trimis de c\u0103tre organiza\u021bie portalului <a href=\"https:\/\/szekelyhon.ro\/aktualis\/marosszek\/peter-ferenc-szaz-eve-a-szovatai-kozbirtokossag-tulajdona-a-vasarhelyi-patinas-epulet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sz\u00e9kelyhon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.szekelyhon.ro\/pictures\/0000001\/0000100\/nn_kivonatkozbirtokossag.jpeg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Extrasul a fost emis \u00een aprilie 2021. Se presupune c\u0103 composesoratul \u0219tia cel pu\u021bin din acel moment c\u0103 ar putea avea leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu cl\u0103direa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dup\u0103 cum se arat\u0103 \u00een extras, o carte funciar\u0103 este alc\u0103tuit\u0103 din trei p\u0103r\u021bi. Partea <strong>A <\/strong>con\u021bine num\u0103rul topo, dimensiunea, adresa \u0219i descrierea fizic\u0103 a propriet\u0103\u021bii: o cas\u0103 de piatr\u0103 cu un singur etaj \u0219i 28 de camere. Partea <strong>B <\/strong>arat\u0103<strong> <\/strong>proprietarul \u0219i orice schimb\u0103ri de proprietari, iar partea <strong>C <\/strong>arat\u0103<strong> <\/strong>sarcinile: dac\u0103 a existat o ipotec\u0103 asupra propriet\u0103\u021bii.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dou\u0103 lucruri au ie\u0219it \u00een eviden\u021b\u0103 din extrasul 2023 publicat de POL.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/oameniliberi.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/01\/CF1.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Una este c\u0103 composesoratul actual e proprietar abia din octombrie 2022. Altfel spus, dac\u0103 municipalitatea ar fi vrut s\u0103 \u00eempiedice ca imobilul s\u0103 devin\u0103 proprietatea composesoratului din Sovata, ar fi avut timp, \u00eentre februarie \u0219i octombrie anul trecut, s\u0103 depun\u0103 propria cerere la oficiul de cadastru.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cel\u0103lalt aspect este c\u0103, \u00eentre \u00eenscrierile B2 \u0219i B5, lipsesc B3 \u0219i B4.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu pentru mult timp \u00eens\u0103: cei de la POL ne-au trimis o copie a c\u0103r\u021bii funciare. Mai apoi,&nbsp; oficiul de cadastru ne-a trimis-o \u0219i nou\u0103. Acest document se aseam\u0103n\u0103 foarte mult cu extrasul, dar con\u021bine \u0219i \u00eenscrierile deja expirate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"377\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-1024x377.jpg\" alt=\"Carte funciara\" class=\"wp-image-41670\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-1024x377.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-300x111.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-768x283.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-750x276.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros-1140x420.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_atiras_Marosszek_Maros.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i anume, c\u0103 Ruta Valer, \u00een numele Composesoratului Mure\u0219ul, a \u00eencercat de dou\u0103 ori, f\u0103r\u0103 succes, s\u0103 transfere proprietatea pe numele actual al composesoratului. \u00cen luna iulie a anului trecut, a \u00eencercat s\u0103 sus\u021bin\u0103 cererea de transcriere cu dou\u0103 hot\u0103r\u00e2ri judec\u0103tore\u0219ti, iar \u00een septembrie \u0219i cu un act notarial, care a fost emis \u00een luna septembrie a aceluia\u0219i an. Ruta Valer, de profesie topograf, mai <a href=\"https:\/\/primariasovata.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/H50-30042020-1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">presteaz\u0103<\/a> \u0219i pentru prim\u0103ria Sovata.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Deoarece, \u00een ciuda \u00eencerc\u0103rilor repetate, nu am reu\u0219it s\u0103 d\u0103m de Ferenc P\u00e9ter, putem doar presupune c\u0103 hot\u0103r\u00e2rea din 2000 con\u021bine \u00eenfiin\u021barea composesoratului actual. Iar cea din 2003 stabile\u0219te probabil c\u0103 Composesoratul Mure\u0219ul este succesorul Composesoratului Scaunul Mure\u0219.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cu toate acestea, <strong>transcrierea cu succes <\/strong>din<strong> <\/strong>octombrie anul trecut nu a necesitat hot\u0103r\u00e2ri judec\u0103tore\u0219ti. Era nevoie doar de un act notarial, a c\u0103rui copie am reu\u0219it s\u0103 o consult\u0103m, spre surprinderea noastr\u0103 \u0219i datorit\u0103 unei surse care a cerut s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2ne anonim\u0103. Tot ce scrie \u00een acel act notarial este c\u0103 Ferenc P\u00e9ter, pre\u0219edintele composesoratului, declar\u0103 pe propria r\u0103spundere c\u0103 este de acord cu modificarea \u00eenscrierii privind denumirea composesoratului din denumirea veche Composesoratul \u201eScaunul Mure\u0219\u201d \u00een denumirea actual\u0103 de Composesoratul \u201eMure\u0219ul\u201d pe foaia <strong>B<\/strong> a noii c\u0103r\u021bi funciare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Document fictiv?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cenregistr\u0103rile din partea B din 2022 au indicat cu lux de am\u0103nunte&nbsp; documentele care au justificat sau nu transcrierea. \u00cen compara\u021bie, despre \u00eenscrierea din 1915 se \u0219tie doar c\u0103 a fost f\u0103cut\u0103 la 4 august \u0219i se refer\u0103 la un act f\u0103r\u0103 num\u0103r sau nume care ar fi putut intra \u00een vigoare la 1 ianuarie 1915.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00centruc\u00e2t primisem o copie a foii <strong>C<\/strong> a CF-ului vechi de la o surs\u0103 anonim\u0103, am mers la biroul de cadastru Mure\u0219 pentru a vedea originalul foii <strong>B<\/strong> \u0219i pentru a solicita o nou\u0103 copie. Spre marea noastr\u0103 surpriz\u0103, din versiunea scanat\u0103 a c\u0103r\u021bii funciare vechi<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">lipse\u0219te foaia B cu numele proprietarului.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La o astfel de consultare personal\u0103, dup\u0103 pl\u0103tirea taxei, se st\u0103 \u00een fa\u021ba unui ecran de calculator pe care se arat\u0103 pagini scanate din vechiul registru funciar. A\u0219a am v\u0103zut<em> <\/em>afi\u0219at\u0103 cunoscuta pagin\u0103 <strong>A <\/strong>cu \u00eenscrierea caligraf\u0103 <em>Nemes Marossz\u00e9k birtokos k\u00f6z\u00f6ns\u00e9ge<\/em> cu o<em> <\/em>men\u021biune \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103 deasupra ei, \u00een creion: <em>Composesoratul Scaunul Mure\u0219<\/em>. Deasupra ei, cu un alt creion, era scris num\u0103rul vechii c\u0103r\u021bi funciare: 946.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!selectors.core.file.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Telekkonyv-Masolat.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"\u00cenglobare pentru Telekkonyv-Masolat be\u00e1gyaz\u00e1sa.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-515782fe-ab5c-45af-9996-d7c86e0d7703\" href=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Telekkonyv-Masolat.pdf\">Telekkonyv-Masolat<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/Telekkonyv-Masolat.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-515782fe-ab5c-45af-9996-d7c86e0d7703\">Let\u00f6lt\u00e9s<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen mijloc se afl\u0103 descrierea cl\u0103dirii \u00een limba maghiar\u0103, cu men\u021biunea <em>Sz\u00e9kh\u00e1z<\/em> (sediu), deasupra, \u00een creion, descrierea fizic\u0103 \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103, iar \u00een lateral, suprafa\u021ba \u00een metri p\u0103tra\u021bi. Sub descriere, sunt scrise cu pixul num\u0103rul de carte funciar\u0103 nou\u0103 \u0219i un num\u0103r de dosar din 2020. Se presupune c\u0103 \u00een 2020 a fost deschis\u0103 noua carte funciar\u0103, acum \u00een format digital. \u00cen partea de jos a paginii se afl\u0103 un num\u0103r de pagin\u0103 1, similar cu inscrip\u021bia 946.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rul\u00e2nd \u00een jos, verso-ul alb al acestei pagini prezint\u0103 verso-ul inscrip\u021biei Nemes Marossz\u00e9k, cu un 2 mare \u00een creion \u00een josul paginii. Mai departe, \u00een loc de pagina <strong>B, <\/strong>apare direct pagina <strong>C <\/strong>cu dou\u0103 \u00eenscrieri \u0219i un num\u0103r de pagin\u0103 3 \u00een partea de jos. Apoi, spatele gol al acestei pagini cu num\u0103rul de pagin\u0103 4 \u00een partea de jos.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu mai exist\u0103 alte pagini scanate, mi-a spus func\u021bionarul de acolo, spre uimirea mea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">De ce consider\u0103m c\u0103 \u00eenregistrarea composesoratului ca proprietar este neregulamentar\u0103<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Toate c\u0103r\u021bile funciare trebuie s\u0103 aib\u0103 foaia <strong>B<\/strong>, ne-a declarat expertul \u00een cadastrare Botond R\u00e1kossy, care a lucrat p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2008 ca secretar de stat la agen\u021bia cadastral\u0103 din Bucure\u0219ti. Foaia <strong>B<\/strong> trebuie s\u0103 fi existat la un moment dat, indiferent de faptul c\u0103 foile <strong>A<\/strong> \u0219i <strong>C<\/strong> sunt numerotate consecutiv, iar foaia <strong>B<\/strong> lipse\u0219te acum.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>R\u00e1kossy, care este \u0219i consilier POL \u00een jude\u021bul Harghita, spune c\u0103, dup\u0103 revolu\u021bie, oamenii au luat pur \u0219i simplu o mul\u021bime de registre funciare de la biroul cadastral din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219. La oficiul din Harghita el a constatat, de asemenea, c\u0103 lipseau sute de registre funciare vechi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu \u0219tim exact, ce date anume \u0219i cum au fost transferate din&nbsp; inexistenta pagin\u0103 <strong>B<\/strong> a vechii c\u0103r\u021bi funciare \u00een capitolul B al celei noi. De asemenea, nu \u0219tim nici de ce nu au fost incluse informa\u021bii despre vechea foaie<strong> C<\/strong> \u00een capitolul <strong>C<\/strong> al copiei electronice al noului registru funciar. Nu \u0219tim nici de ce capitolul <strong>B<\/strong> al noii c\u0103r\u021bi funciare se deschide cu metadatele vechii foi <strong>C.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen orice caz, l-am \u00eentrebat pe directorul biroului de cadastru Mure\u0219 de ce lipse\u0219te foaia <strong>B<\/strong> original\u0103, cum \u0219i de ce datele din foaia <strong>C<\/strong> au fost transferate la capitolul <strong>B<\/strong> din noua carte funciar\u0103 \u0219i de ce informa\u021biile din vechea foaie <strong>C<\/strong> nu au fost transferate la capitolul <strong>C<\/strong> din noua carte. Dac\u0103 va decide s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103, vom actualiza articolul.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Func\u021bionarul care ne-a ar\u0103tat varianta scanat\u0103 la fa\u021ba locului ne-a spus c\u0103 s-a scanat tot ce aveau pe h\u00e2rtie din aceast\u0103 carte funciar\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 persoanele neautorizate nu pot avea acces la documente.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"822\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-1024x822.jpg\" alt=\"R\u00e9gi megyeh\u00e1za telekk\u00f6nyvi m\u00e1solata\" class=\"wp-image-41676\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-1024x822.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-768x616.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-750x602.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap-1140x915.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Telekkonyv-C-lap.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Prima \u00eenscriere de pe foaia C este foarte greu de citit, dar primul r\u00e2nd arat\u0103 clar c\u0103 num\u0103rul de \u00eenregistrare (3078) \u0219i data (4 august 1915) sunt identice cu \u00eenscrierea care deschide partea B a noii c\u0103r\u021bi funciare: 3078 \/ 04\/08\/1915.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cu ajutorul mai multor istorici, am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 cele dou\u0103 \u00eenregistr\u0103ri de pe foaia <strong>C<\/strong> nu au nicio leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu atribuirea dreptului de proprietate \u00een noile \u00eenregistr\u0103ri B1 \u0219i B2. Vechea foaie <strong>C<\/strong> spune c\u0103 la 4 august 1915 a fost \u00eenregistrat un fel de credit asupra cl\u0103dirii \u00een valoarea de 1270 de coroane, \u00een schimbul c\u0103ruia L\u00e1szl\u00f3 Pap, un locuitor din T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219, a dob\u00e2ndit un drept de uzufruct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ce am putut citi: \u201e<em>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.\u201d &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; z\u00e1log-jog Ezerk\u00e9tsz\u00e1zhetven kor. t\u0151ke r\u00e9szlet \u00e9s annak \u00f6sszes j\u00e1rul\u00e9kai, \u2026\u2026. \u2026 \u2026.. .. \u2026\u2026.. alatt felvett ingatla-nokra (?) \u00e9s azoknak ha-szon\u00e9lvezet\u00e9re Pap L\u00e1szl\u00f3 marosv\u00e1s\u00e1rhelyi lak\u00f3s jav\u00e1ra bekebeleztetik. \u2013 F\u0151sz.: 699 jz. \u2026.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dreptul de uzufruct \u00eenregistrat a expirat dup\u0103 trei luni, la 4 octombrie 1915, data \u00eenscrisului C2. Al\u0103turi de \u00eenscrisul C1 scrie A<em>nulare C2<\/em>. \u00censcrisul C2 arat\u0103 c\u0103 dreptul de uzufruct rezultat din creditul de 1270 de coroane se anuleaz\u0103 pe baza hot\u0103r\u00e2rii tribunalului T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219 nr. P.1482\/9\/1915.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"R\u00e9gi megyeh\u00e1za terasza\" class=\"wp-image-41679\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-295x222.jpg 295w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-750x563.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo-1140x855.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_gang_fotelek_Ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Na\u021bionalizare austro-ungar\u0103<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu am reu\u0219it s\u0103 g\u0103sim legea din 1915 care atribuie cl\u0103direa Composesoratului Scaunul Mure\u0219. \u00cen cel de-al treilea volum din <em>Istoria \u021ainutului Secuiesc, <\/em>publicat \u00een 2016 [<a href=\"https:\/\/core.ac.uk\/download\/pdf\/78480217.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">.pdf, p. 110<\/a>], autorii men\u021bioneaz\u0103 trei legi privind composesoratele, dar niciuna dintre ele nu a intrat \u00een vigoare \u00een 1915. Ultima dateaz\u0103 din 1913 \u0219i reglementeaz\u0103 gestionarea p\u0103\u0219unilor composesoratelor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Am g\u0103sit \u00eens\u0103 o lege din 1876 care dispune clar na\u021bionalizarea sediului Scaunului Mure\u0219. Este vorba de <a href=\"https:\/\/net.jogtar.hu\/getpdf?docid=87600033.TV&amp;targetdate=&amp;printTitle=1876.+%C3%A9vi+XXXIII.+t%C3%B6rv%C3%A9nycikk&amp;referer=1000ev\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Legea XXXIII din 1876<\/em><\/a><em> privind reglementarea teritoriului anumitor jurisdic\u021bii \u0219i m\u0103surile referitoare la acestea, <\/em>care, la punctul 6, sun\u0103 \u00een felul urm\u0103tor:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201eToate bunurile mobile sau imobile ale jude\u021belor (districte, scaune, provincii) unite, \u00een m\u0103sura \u00een care sunt folosite \u00een scopuri pur administrative, vor fi administrate de jude\u021bele unite. Veniturile realizate din aceste bunuri continu\u0103 s\u0103 fie folosite pentru a acoperi cheltuielile administra\u021biei, dar sunt contabilizate \u00een favoarea p\u0103r\u021bii \u00een a c\u0103rei proprietate se aflau p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een prezent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Singurele excep\u021bii sunt cl\u0103dirile \u0219i dot\u0103rile acestora care sunt deja utilizate \u00een scopuri administrative \u0219i de au nevoie jude\u021bele unite pentru scopuri administrative. Aceste cl\u0103diri devin proprietatea public\u0103 a jude\u021belor unite.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"666\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-1024x666.jpg\" alt=\"Dr\u00f3nfot\u00f3 a r\u00e9gi megyeh\u00e1z\u00e1r\u00f3l\" class=\"wp-image-41682\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-1024x666.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-768x499.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-750x488.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo-1140x741.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_teljes-utcafront_Ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Pe atunci s-a format jude\u021bul Mure\u0219-Turda prin unificare, iar sediul Scaunului Mure\u0219 a fost folosit\u0103 \u00een scopuri administrative \u00eenainte \u0219i dup\u0103 anul 1876. Mai mult, proprietatea forestier\u0103 a composesoratului de atunci era administrat\u0103 tot de jude\u021b, cu recunoa\u0219terea faptului c\u0103 proprietatea \u0219i beneficiile apar\u021bineau celor 127 de comune care formau atunci Composesoratul Scaunului Mure\u0219. Prin urmare, ceea ce a \u00eensemnat de fapt&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Publicul posesor al nobilului Scaun Mure\u0219<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul><li>\u00een momentul c\u00e2nd a fost deschis\u0103 cartea funciar\u0103 original\u0103 (nu \u0219tim c\u00e2nd),&nbsp;<\/li><li>\u00een 1876, c\u00e2nd Scaunul a fost transformat \u00een jude\u021b,&nbsp;<\/li><li>\u00cen 1879, c\u00e2nd s-a \u00eenregistrat firma composesoratului ca <em>o cooperativ\u0103 a proprietarilor nobili secui ai mun\u021bilor de pe teritoriul Scaunului Mure\u0219ul Vechi,&nbsp;<\/em><\/li><li>sau \u00een 1918,<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>r\u0103m\u00e2ne de interes numai pentru istorici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>O surs\u0103\u00a0 anonim\u0103 ne-a ar\u0103tat un registru de imobile care indic\u0103 impozitul datorat pe anul 1919. \u0218i aici apare cl\u0103direa ca sediu al jude\u021bului, scutit de impozit, fiind de\u021binut de <em>Publicul posesor al nobilului Scaun Mure\u0219.<\/em> Numele de sediu de jude\u021b \u0219i scutirea de impozit pot sugera c\u0103 <em>Nemes Marossz\u00e9k<\/em> se poate referi la organul administrativ. Dar faptul c\u0103 proprietarul nu apare ca fiind jude\u021bul Mure\u0219-Turda poate \u00eensemna, de asemenea, c\u0103 imobilul apar\u021binea composesoratului.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ambele op\u021biuni pot fi \u0219i vor fi dezb\u0103tute dac\u0103 primarul Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s, fidel promisiunii sale, va da \u00een judecat\u0103 oficiul de cadastru pentru a \u00eenregistra cl\u0103direa emblematic\u0103 pe numele ora\u0219ului. Dar aceast\u0103 disput\u0103 va fi solu\u021bionat\u0103 \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 \u0219i nu putem dec\u00e2t spera c\u0103 dezbaterea va fi una profesionist\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"R\u00e9gi megyeh\u00e1za erk\u00e9lye\" class=\"wp-image-41685\" srcset=\"https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-295x222.jpg 295w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-750x563.jpg 750w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo-1140x855.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/atlatszo.ro\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/230303_Megyehaza_muveszeke_Ufo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Foto: Egyed Uf\u00f3 Zolt\u00e1n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u00centreb\u0103rile noastre pentru Zolt\u00e1n So\u00f3s:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>C\u00e2nd a\u021bi observat pentru prima dat\u0103 c\u0103 proprietatea de pe strada Bolyai nr. 5, care a g\u0103zduit studiouri timp de 50 de ani, era \u00eenregistrat\u0103 \u00een cartea funciar\u0103 ca apar\u021bin\u00e2nd Composesoratului Mure\u0219ul?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00centr-o postare pe Facebook, pe 23 ianuarie, a\u021bi promis c\u0103 ve\u021bi ataca \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 decizia biroului de cadastru. A\u021bi ac\u021bionat deja \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 dvs. sau juri\u0219tii ora\u0219ului? Dac\u0103 nu, de ce nu?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De ce nu a fost dat \u00een judecat\u0103 oficiul de cadastru timp de un an? Prim\u0103ria \u0219tie de cel pu\u021bin un an c\u0103 \u00een cartea funciar\u0103 a fostei Prefecturi Vechi figureaz\u0103 ca proprietar Composesoratul Scaunul Mure\u0219.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De ce a\u021bi spus c\u0103 imobilul trecut ca proprietate public\u0103 \u00een Cartea Alb\u0103 a ora\u0219ului T\u00e2rgu Mure\u0219 din 2002 nu putea fi \u00eenregistrat \u00een CF dec\u00e2t p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 2010? 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